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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Saturday, 26 February 2000

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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
002 Robert Goler [robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au  Melbourne Gusta!
003 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm prospects for Illawarra - poor
004 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Storm prospects for Illawarra - poor
005 Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]             Melbourne report
006 Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]             SDS can't get *that* bad and other updates
007 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au]        Melbourne report
008 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         Cyclone watch for QLD !!!!
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
010 Desley Absolon [mystyle at bigpond.com.au]        Cyclone watch for QLD !!!!
011 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]        Argument Help
012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             TC Advice 2
013 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Argument Help
014 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]  Argument Help
015 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Argument Help
016 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]          SA Rain storm near Clare today
017 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Bucca F4 Tornado Pictures (Argument Help)
018 Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]             Melbourne Storm Chasers Site - Updates, Webcam & Photos
019 Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]             T shirt orders - just a reminder
020 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]    F4
021 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           F4
022 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    F4
023 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]    F4
024 Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]             Scientific American special issue

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001
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx: Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:42:29 +1100
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There was a single rumble on the 4th January, but no rain in the Wollongong
CBD itself. Around Shellharbour there was 5 rumbles and  a couple of mm on
the same day.

I can't recall a storm drought like this, some winters have been more
active.

Michael



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From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Sent: Friday, 25 February 2000 20:57
Subject: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx:
Victoria possibly in for severe weather?


> Michael - when was the last thunderstorm in wollongong ?
> don W
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Wollongong 0/10
> >
> > > > After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for
> > possible
> > > > severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western
area
> > > > rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
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From: Robert Goler [robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au]
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I think I saw this same gust front here at Clayton, about 20km southeast
of the city. It was about 8pm or so, and from my window I saw it to the
northwest. I rushed outside and took a few shots, but as it passed
overhead it seemed to lose its form. Only a minor breeze kicked up as it 
passed, so it's ooomph had obviously been lost. I got a few shots, but
with the dim lighting, I'm not sure how it'll turn out.

Cheers, Rob


> Hello all again, 
> 	I just got back from the city of Melbourne where numerous Cb 
> towers were easily visible over the north-eastern areas. Travelling down 
> to the city by train allowed me to witness many different congestus 
> and various CB Calvus formations. Once I arrived in the city, it was 
> noticable that there was a developing storm overhead which appeared to 
> be stationary or travelling extremely slow. It continued to develop for 
> approximately 20 minutes until the distinguishable sign of a gust front 
> was approaching. At this time I was walking to the Tennis Centre when 
> the gusta came right overhead producing strong wind gusts. 
> Unfortunately, I DID NOT HAVE A BLOODY CAMERA! AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!! It 
> was a really great sight. I was desperate to get a photo asking anyone 
> if they had a camera. Of course my desperate attempts to search for a 
> camera proved fruitless. Overall, a great day today for storms as I 
> observed. I hope many other people experienced the same agilation.
> 
> 							Deano
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Robert A. Goler        

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Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Monash University
Clayton, Vic 3800
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Storm prospects for Illawarra - poor
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:49:22 +1100
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I think that the Illawarra - Sydney may be setting up for a round of piggy
in the middle this weekend.

Today should see some storms on the south coast south of Batemans Bay, and
the adjacent ranges / tablelands.

Unfortunately the next SE change appears that it may creep through the
Illawarra overnight, leaving a poor chance for storms on Sunday. On Sunday
the action ( action is probably too strong a word ) should have moved to the
Hunter and westwards.

This is a classic case scenario that has been repeated so many times, storms
south of you one day, north of you the next.

The only chance is that when the weak trough moves through overnight it may
kick off some convection, but the odds are against you.

One consolation is that the upper winds are pretty crook, so any storms that
do develop other parts of NSW should be weak, and we can tell ourselves that
they were not worth chasing.

Today I would rather be in NE Tasmania, now there is a indicator of how bad
things are here.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com


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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:22:20 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Cheer up Michael. Think about the folk in Calama, slightly in;land from
Arica, in Northern Chile. They had a thunderstormon 10 February 1972 -
which brough the first rain to the region for an estimated 400 years,
going on the surface deposits of the sodium nitrate.  They had 0.2 mm
again in 1989 but otherwise nothing since althuogh thin strata- Cu is
quite common.
There's always someone worse off than you.

Don White.

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> I think that the Illawarra - Sydney may be setting up for a round of piggy
> in the middle this weekend.
> 
> Today should see some storms on the south coast south of Batemans Bay, and
> the adjacent ranges / tablelands.
> 
> Unfortunately the next SE change appears that it may creep through the
> Illawarra overnight, leaving a poor chance for storms on Sunday. On Sunday
> the action ( action is probably too strong a word ) should have moved to the
> Hunter and westwards.
> 
> This is a classic case scenario that has been repeated so many times, storms
> south of you one day, north of you the next.
> 
> The only chance is that when the weak trough moves through overnight it may
> kick off some convection, but the odds are against you.
> 
> One consolation is that the upper winds are pretty crook, so any storms that
> do develop other parts of NSW should be weak, and we can tell ourselves that
> they were not worth chasing.
> 
> Today I would rather be in NE Tasmania, now there is a indicator of how bad
> things are here.
> 
> Michael Thompson
> http://thunder.simplenet.com
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:23:27 +1100
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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It's been a pretty nice couple of days in Victoria after a pretty
uninteresting summer compared to the last one. I've got a roll and a
half of film to be developed

Rainfall totals from slow moving storms have been in the 20-40mm /
24hour region.  Castlemaine - 32mm, Coldstream - 26mm, Kilmore - 24mm,
Laverton - 22mm, Maryborough - 40mm, Moorabbin - 26mm, Baywater - 21mm.  

Lightning was also seen for the first time in a while east of Mt
Dandenong - but I have still to hear thunder since 27th December.

Chasing has been difficult with these - the best ones have been lurking
in the non-chaseable territory to the NE of Melbourne - but yesterday
changed that.

I'd shot out of the office at 1130 up the local hill to take a couple of
pics and then spent the rest of the afternoon being intensely,
screamingly frustrated because I could see the development outside and I
was stuck with a computer training course for the sales reps...and btw,
who's the idiot who made up the "all sales reps will be in the office on
Friday between 3 & 5pm" rule??????? - oh, yeah - that was me, so I
couldn't really break my own rule....mind you the noises in my head were
pretty loud by the time I escaped at 5pm (I just hope no-one else could
hear them or I would have been committed ).  I did get onto the roof
during a break in the training to take a couple of pics.

Sat on the 'south eastern carpark' (that's a freeway for those of you
who don't know) videoing & taking pics of these amazing TCu's almost
overhead - crisp & white & boiling - something we just haven't seen for
a while - and an hour later escaped out to the SE of Melbourne and the
Latrobe Valley. Drove out to Warragul, videoed what looked like a very,
very, very short gustnado (do not get excited), some nice cloud
formations, a kangaroo who couldn't see me or a tripod or a purple
Commodore parked off the side of the road & almost ran over the top of
me while I was videoing a cloud , lightning on the way back......it
was just a nice storm chasers' evening drive.......

Today I think I catch up on those little things that don't get done
while chasing .....like get the pictorial reports for the 23rd & 25th up
on the MSC site.......


Jane ONeill
Bayswater - Victoria
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:49:33 +1100
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: SDS can't get *that* bad and other updates
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SDS can't get that bad - all you have to keep in mind is the newest item
at the top of the Melbourne Storm Chasers humour page - this little item
put's everything firmly back into perspective - print it out and put it
on the fridge for those days when there's only Cumulus humilus or
stratocumulus (not worthy of capitalisation!!)for thousands of
miles.....

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/humour.htm

Many thanks to Don & Michael for giving this little piece of sanity.....

Jane ONeill
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:39:45 +1100
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After all the action of the last couple of days, here in Geelong we
continue to be deprived.  Although the northern suburbs copped a bit (Corio
22 mm) and surrounding parts to our NW and the Bellarine Peninsula (eg,
Portarlington 30 mm),most of the urban area only received a couple of mm,
making our progressive monthly total around 15 mm (average 39). Our Otways
water catchments didn't do much better so our water restrictions remain (18
months now and counting). The drought continues! Meanwhile we're heading
for a Feb maximum temperature record: the old record was 28.9, we will
probably end up around 29.5.  Regards to all.
Lindsay Smail


At 10:23 AM 26-02-00 +1100, you wrote:
>It's been a pretty nice couple of days in Victoria after a pretty
>uninteresting summer compared to the last one. I've got a roll and a
>half of film to be developed
>
>Rainfall totals from slow moving storms have been in the 20-40mm /
>24hour region.  Castlemaine - 32mm, Coldstream - 26mm, Kilmore - 24mm,
>Laverton - 22mm, Maryborough - 40mm, Moorabbin - 26mm, Baywater - 21mm.  
>
>Lightning was also seen for the first time in a while east of Mt
>Dandenong - but I have still to hear thunder since 27th December.
>
>Chasing has been difficult with these - the best ones have been lurking
>in the non-chaseable territory to the NE of Melbourne - but yesterday
>changed that.
>
>I'd shot out of the office at 1130 up the local hill to take a couple of
>pics and then spent the rest of the afternoon being intensely,
>screamingly frustrated because I could see the development outside and I
>was stuck with a computer training course for the sales reps...and btw,
>who's the idiot who made up the "all sales reps will be in the office on
>Friday between 3 & 5pm" rule??????? - oh, yeah - that was me, so I
>couldn't really break my own rule....mind you the noises in my head were
>pretty loud by the time I escaped at 5pm (I just hope no-one else could
>hear them or I would have been committed ).  I did get onto the roof
>during a break in the training to take a couple of pics.
>
>Sat on the 'south eastern carpark' (that's a freeway for those of you
>who don't know) videoing & taking pics of these amazing TCu's almost
>overhead - crisp & white & boiling - something we just haven't seen for
>a while - and an hour later escaped out to the SE of Melbourne and the
>Latrobe Valley. Drove out to Warragul, videoed what looked like a very,
>very, very short gustnado (do not get excited), some nice cloud
>formations, a kangaroo who couldn't see me or a tripod or a purple
>Commodore parked off the side of the road & almost ran over the top of
>me while I was videoing a cloud , lightning on the way back......it
>was just a nice storm chasers' evening drive.......
>
>Today I think I catch up on those little things that don't get done
>while chasing .....like get the pictorial reports for the 23rd & 25th up
>on the MSC site.......
>
>
>Jane ONeill
>Bayswater - Victoria
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:08:25 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone watch for QLD !!!!
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Hey all, Woooohoo!!

IDW50Q00
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
Queensland Region
Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre

Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with
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PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 1
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
For 1100 am EST on Saturday the 26th of February 2000

A cyclone watch has been declared for coastal and island communities
between
Cooktown and Cardwell.

At 11am a tropical low with central pressure 1000 hPa was centred near
latitude
16.5 south longitude 149.0 east, which is 370 kilometres east of Port
Douglas.

The low is expected to move slowly westwards during the next 24 hours
and may
affect coastal and island communities between Cooktown and Cardwell by
Sunday
afternoon.

Residents between Cooktown and Cardwell should take preliminary
precautions and
consider what action they will need to take if the threat increases.  If
you are
unsure of what actions to take, information is available from your
local  SES.

The next Advice will be issued at 5pm EST.

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:12:43 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thunderies in Blackheath  = 1/10

Not that it really matters as I still haven't got my camera back from
the Sydney repair shop and my new car has the "check Engine" light
coming on, so there goes my reconossance (sp?) mission for this years
snow chasing to Oberon next Monday. Looks like I'll be sitting around
Penrith on my day off. There are some disadvantages to living in the
mountains, everything is so far away! Except for the snow :-)

True Don there are always people worse off, but often there are plenty
better off too.
My glass is "half empty" today :-(


Lindsay Pearce


Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> Wollongong 0/10
> 
> > > After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for
> possible
> > > severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
> > > rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
> > >
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:46:50 +1000
From: Desley Absolon [mystyle at bigpond.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone watch for QLD !!!!
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Yayyyyyyyyyy!!! Our first 'almost' cyclone for the year...and about time too!!

I recorded 240mm overnight last night....fantastic..Cairns was flooded locally
this morning, in areas where we haven't seen water in 12 years up here..SES
were sandbagging in front of businesses,etc. water has subsided everywhere now
but more heavy rain is expected overnight tonight and into
tomorrow...depending on the low....clear at the moment but very humid...and
gusty wind every now and then....the gas bottles are filled and we're
excited!!

Desley in Cairns...
PS:  We are so well drained up here that even with that volume of rain
overnight, we mowed the lawn this afternoon...ya can hear the grass growing..I
kid you not!!!!

Paul Miracki wrote:

> Hey all, Woooohoo!!
>
> IDW50Q00
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> Queensland Region
> Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre
>
> Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with
> this
> message.
>
> PRIORITY
> TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 1
> Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
> For 1100 am EST on Saturday the 26th of February 2000
>
> A cyclone watch has been declared for coastal and island communities
> between
> Cooktown and Cardwell.
>
> At 11am a tropical low with central pressure 1000 hPa was centred near
> latitude
> 16.5 south longitude 149.0 east, which is 370 kilometres east of Port
> Douglas.
>
> The low is expected to move slowly westwards during the next 24 hours
> and may
> affect coastal and island communities between Cooktown and Cardwell by
> Sunday
> afternoon.
>
> Residents between Cooktown and Cardwell should take preliminary
> precautions and
> consider what action they will need to take if the threat increases.  If
> you are
> unsure of what actions to take, information is available from your
> local  SES.
>
> The next Advice will be issued at 5pm EST.
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:54:43 +1000
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]
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Susan From Balmain

I'm currently indulging myself in an arguement with someone regarding
Australian Tornados

Him - We don't have them

Me - Yes we do

Him - No we don't - prove it

Ok anyone got a good site with facts and figures on all Aussie Tornados - the
strengths etc and photos if possible

Thanks in advance

Susan



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PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 2
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
For 5pm EST on Saturday the 26th of February 2000

A cyclone watch is current for coastal and island communities between Cooktown
and Cardwell.

At 5pm a tropical low with central pressure 1000 hPa was centred near latitude
16.5 south longitude 149.0 east, which is 370 kilometres east of Port Douglas.

The low has remained almost stationary during today but is expected to move
slowly westwards during the next 24 hours and may affect coastal and island
communities between Cooktown and Cardwell by Sunday night.

Residents between Cooktown and Cardwell should take preliminary precautions
and
consider what action they will need to take if the threat increases.  If
you are
unsure of what actions to take, information is available from your local SES.

The next Advice will be issued at 11pm EST.
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Hi

http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm/thunderstruck/tornadoarchive/index.htm

These are tornadic events that have come to my attention. And I have listed
them here on my website for this online archive for everyone. (a few of you
have probably stumbled across it before)

Recently added 2 photos of a Tornado sighted on 3/10/99 near Boorowa
(Southern NSW) at approx 2.25 pm by Peter Macdonald. Also below is the
approximate path of the Tornado, hich was on the ground from between 5 to
10 minutes.

 IF you know of ANY MORE PLEAS PLEAS PLEASE PLEASE email me with some
details about it, so i can include it in this archive.
I know there are hundreds, probably thousands more accounts out there, its
just a matter of finding out about them.
 If any people at the BoM could give me a helping hand it would be very
much appreciated. (I am not doing SA/WA as Andrew and Ira are covering these)

Thanks for your help, and i hope this helps answer any queries Susan

Matt Smith



>Susan From Balmain
>
>I'm currently indulging myself in an arguement with someone regarding
>Australian Tornados
>
>Him - We don't have them
>
>Me - Yes we do
>
>Him - No we don't - prove it
>
>Ok anyone got a good site with facts and figures on all Aussie Tornados - the
>strengths etc and photos if possible
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Susan
>
>
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:14:40 +1100
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Susan,

A few more sites to go with Matt Smith's page:

Official BOM sites:

Facts on Tornadoes in NSW
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/nsw/inside/sevwx/public/tornadofact.shtml
(has pics on the site) and this extract:

Tornadoes occur more commonly in NSW than most people would expect. The
Bureau of Meteorology's database records 351 tornadoes across NSW from 1795
to December 1998.

Recent examples of tornadoes in NSW include:

27th July 1998 - Willow Tree (North West Slopes) - F2 tornado damages a
house, moves a vehicle

1st July 1998 - Fingal Bay (Hunter) - F1 tornado damages a caravan park

29th September 1996 - separate tornadoes (likely F1-F2) at Elong Elong,
Gilgandra (Central West Slopes) and Bundella (North West Slopes). Large
trees uprooted & snapped. 4-tonne truck moved

30th November 1995 - Rosewood (South West Slopes) - tornado (likely F1-F2)
un-roofs homes, uproots trees and flattens crops. Tractor turned
upside-down. Accompanied by 4.2 cm hail

16th April 1995 - Merimbula / Pambula (South Coast) - F2 tornado completely
destroys
12 houses and damages nearly 100 others. Forty people injured. Damage
estimated at over $10 Million

28th January 1995 - Cobar (Upper Western) - tornado accompanied by 7.5 cm
hail

20th November 1993 - Tucabia (Northern Rivers) - F2 tornado destroys 8
homes, damages at least 100 others. Two people injured

Another BOM site with tornado info for other states at:

http://www.bom.gov.au/info/thunder/
with the following (edited) extract on tornadoes (the site itself has
photos):

29 November 1992
A tornado and larger than golf-ball hail tear through Bucca, north of
Bundaberg, Queensland, levelling three homes and unroofing many others, as
well as ruining millions of dollars worth of crops.

22 November 1992
During the early hours of the morning, a tornado severely damages over a
dozen houses, destroying several in the north west Tasmanian town of
Smithton. It is the State's most intense tornado, with estimated winds of
280 km/h which also flatten hundreds of large trees along a 15 km path.
(photo A)

22 January 1991
A tornado and hail cause a total estimated $75 million worth of damage in
Adelaide, the worst natural disaster since Ash Wednesday bushfires of 1983.


13 January 1976
Near Sandon in central Victoria, two people are killed when a tornado plucks
their car from the side of the road and hurls it 100 metres into a ditch.


6 April 1960
In the early hours of the morning, a tornado sweeps through dense Jarrah
forest near Collie in the south west of Western Australia, cutting a swathe
averaging 240 metres wide along a continuous track of 30 kilometres. Tens of
thousands of trees are left felled in its wake.

Michael Bath and Jimmy Deguara's page at
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/tornado.htm
has some great photos and links to pictures and chase reports resulting in
Tornadoes being seen on sites such as Ira Fehlberg's.

This is an argument you should have no trouble in winning..

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Saturday, 26 February 2000 18:05
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Argument Help


>Susan From Balmain
>
>I'm currently indulging myself in an arguement with someone regarding
>Australian Tornados
>
>Him - We don't have them
>
>Me - Yes we do
>
>Him - No we don't - prove it
>
>Ok anyone got a good site with facts and figures on all Aussie Tornados -
the
>strengths etc and photos if possible
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Susan
>
>
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Hi Susan, there are pages with pictures and information on the various web 
sites.

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/tornado.htm

http://thunder.simplenet.com/

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/weather.html

{lease tell me if I have missed any of the other pages that have been put 
on. Also tell this person about the Bulahdelah tornado which most probably 
was an F5, the Bucca tornado which was F4 and another F3 on the same day, 
Jarra Forrest Tornado which was F4 I think, but the above sites have 
photographic evidence that they do exist!!!

Jimmy Deguara

At 17:54 26/02/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Susan From Balmain
>
>I'm currently indulging myself in an arguement with someone regarding
>Australian Tornados
>
>Him - We don't have them
>
>Me - Yes we do
>
>Him - No we don't - prove it
>
>Ok anyone got a good site with facts and figures on all Aussie Tornados - the
>strengths etc and photos if possible
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Susan
>
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:08:26 +1030
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: SA Rain storm near Clare today
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Although there was a possibility this system had lightning in it, I didn't 
leave until about 2pm.

On the way there, there were some nice updrafts and a couple of towers, but 
as I got closer the heads started to go fibrous. When I had reached a good 
spot, there was a nice rain foot next to a RFB, looked quite spectacular 
considering we havent seen some really good weather for a couple of months. 
I have video and Photographs of the event. I decided to enter the lions den 
and proceed into the rain, this was really cool, windscreen wipers going 
full bore and still couldn't see out of window. Most of the farmlands in 
the area were starting to flood with water visable on the fields. There was 
also a small river running next to the road. Unfortunately no lightning was 
seen but all up it was a pretty nice cell. I think I may have got there a 
bit late to see the lightning :(

I will have a report up on page shortly.


Andrew Wall

South Australia.

State representative for S.A. and N.T. Division of the Australian Severe 
Weather Association Inc.
Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage.
South Australian Severe Weather page - http://sastorms.virtualave.net
ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:39:32 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Jimmy, Susan..

We recently got our hands on some pictures of the Bucca F4 tornado.. we
(Anthony and I) were going to build a "tornadoes" section on BSCH, and
put the pictures up when that was done.. but given the circumstances, i
think adding the pictures tonight would be a good idea..

Feast your eyes on these:

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/picturegallerynew.htm

The Bucca ones are of course the first 5 pictures - then there are 48
new pictures courtesy of Damien Howes - and there are some pearlers
too..



Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan, there are pages with pictures and information on the various web
> sites.
> 
> http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/tornado.htm
> 
> http://thunder.simplenet.com/
> 
> http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/
> 
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
> 
> http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/weather.html
> 
> {lease tell me if I have missed any of the other pages that have been put
> on. Also tell this person about the Bulahdelah tornado which most probably
> was an F5, the Bucca tornado which was F4 and another F3 on the same day,
> Jarra Forrest Tornado which was F4 I think, but the above sites have
> photographic evidence that they do exist!!!
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 17:54 26/02/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >Susan From Balmain
> >
> >I'm currently indulging myself in an arguement with someone regarding
> >Australian Tornados
> >
> >Him - We don't have them
> >
> >Me - Yes we do
> >
> >Him - No we don't - prove it
> >
> >Ok anyone got a good site with facts and figures on all Aussie Tornados - the
> >strengths etc and photos if possible
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Susan
> >
> >
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Ben Quinn

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:50:01 +1100
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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I've put up 3 new chase reports today all full of photos, as well as
updating the humour page, 

Chase Reports
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/25_2_00.htm
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/23_2_00.htm
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/8_2_00.htm

Humour Page
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/humour.htm

Enjoy,
Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill
cadence at rubix.net.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:59:54 +1100
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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If you want to place an order for ASWA tshirts, polo shirts or
windcheater / jumpers, don't forget that your order and your money needs
to be with your state ASWA rep, or with me if you hail ) from overseas or aren't an ASWA member, by the
18th March at the absolute latest.

To check details goto
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/fashion.htm

Or contact me directly at 
cadence at rubix.net.au


Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
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From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: F4
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:14:09 +1100
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Was that tornado at Bucca near Coffs?

Peter

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: F4
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You wish Peter. No the F4 tornado was at Bucca Queensland near Bundaberg. 
It was an outbreak of severe weather that day right down the east coast!!! 
It was the day Brisbane cricket was hailed on I believe...

Jimmy Deguara


At 22:14 26/02/00 +1100, you wrote:
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:16:04 +1000
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Hi Peter,

The tornado was at Bucca, near Bundaberg (QLD), another tornado (F3)
occurred at Maryborough.  Five confirmed supercells occurred during that
day (29th of Nov, 1992).  Hail was reported up to 7-8cm in diameter.

Peter Tristram wrote:
> 
> Was that tornado at Bucca near Coffs?
> 
> Peter
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(ASWA)
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From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: F4


> You wish Peter. No the F4 tornado was at Bucca Queensland near Bundaberg.
> It was an outbreak of severe weather that day right down the east coast!!!
> It was the day Brisbane cricket was hailed on I believe...
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> At 22:14 26/02/00 +1100, you wrote:
> >Was that tornado at Bucca near Coffs?
> >
> >Peter
> >
Thanks for reply,

Didn't think I'd heard of any tornadoes near here, though ... any decent
weather event would be welcome - very quiet here!

Peter

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:29:59 +1100
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Scientific American special issue
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Scientific American is doing an entire quarterly issue on Weather....
(thanks for Steve Sponsler for posting the original messaage to
wx-chase)
For more information & some reading......

http://www.sciam.com/

http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/0300weather/0300davidson.html


INTRODUCTION

OUR NATIONAL PASSION
A fan of things meteorological contemplates the mania for tornado
chasing and weather-as-entertainment.
By Keay Davidson


THE PERILS OF PREDICTION

FORECASTING IS NO PICINIC
A look behind the scenes at how and why a weather report changes so
much.
By Richard Monastersky

DECODING THE FORECAST
>From "cold front" to "degree days," this guide deciphers the often
abstruse terminology of newspaper and broadcast reports.
By Eugene Raikhel

THE BUTTERFLY THAT ROARED
Chaos bedevils meteorological computer models. That's why even the best
ones can't reliably predict more than 14 days ahead.
By Jeffrey Rosenfeld

DO WE NEED THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE?
Private weather services want the government to drop most of its
forecasting duties, but the public sector still has a vital role.
By Jeffrey Rosenfeld



UNSETTLED SKIES

BILLION-DOLLAR TWISTER
The Oklahoma City tornado on May 3, 1999, set a record for
destructiveness.
Plus: What Would Auntie Em Do?
By Robert Henson

EXTREME WEATHER
A world map locates the hottest, coldest, driest and wettest events.
By Eugene Raikhel

FLEEING FLOYD
Well-crafter civil defense contingency plans couldn't cope with traffic
in the largest U.S. mass evacuation ever.
Plus: Answers Blowing in the Wind.
By Jim Reed

BIG SKY, HOT NIGHTS, RED SPRITES
A meteorologist without a government or academic affiliation does
world-class research on bizarre lightning in his backyard.
By Karen Wright

IT'S RAINING EELS: A COMPENDIUM OF WEIRD WEATHER
A turtle in a hailstone? Under the right conditions, what comes down
from the sky may be a lot more than just frozen H2O.
By Randy Cerveny

TEMPESTS FROM THE SUN
Solar storms can endanger satellites and even power grids here on
Earth.
Plus: Chasing Extraterrestrial Storms.
By Tracy Staedter




DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT

CLOUD DANCERS
More than 50 years of artificial rain-making efforts have failed to
prove the techniques actually work.
By Daniel Pendick

WEATHERPROOFING AIR TRAVEL
Nervous fliers can take solace from new technologies that alert pilots
to imminent hazards, from turbulence to wing icing.
By Phil Scott




CLIMATE IN FLUX

BEYOND EL NI�O
El Ni�o turns out to be but one of several oceanic and atmospheric
cycles that affect weather around the globe.
By Laurence Lippsett

WARMING TO CLIMATE CHANGE 
Midwestern farmers and native Alaskans alike are trying to figure out
what to do about global warming.
Plus: Life in a Hotter World
By Kathryn S. Brown

UNDER THE WEATHER
Weather and climate can have a profound effect on patterns of health
and disease.
Plus: Today's Forecast: Increased Cold and Heart Attacks
By Rita Baron-Faust


ATMOSPHERE AS SPECTACLE

LIGHTS, CAMERA, WEATHER
Hollywood uses artifice to simulate realistic-looking rain, wind and
snow.
By Randy Cerveny

CHANNELING THE WEATHER
Being a weatherman ain't easy.
By Steve Mirsky


FURTHER INFORMATION

WEATHER ON THE WEB
Sites offering more on the featured topics.
By Diane Martindale

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Jane ONeill
cadence at rubix.net.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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