From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Current Taree weather obs.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:16:36 +1100
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>Howdy all!! An interesting night here. After the storm that dumped 55mm in
2 hours more heavy rain was received overnight. So far total for period 3pm
til 7am is 64mm

So looks like the theory that if it is wet on the full moon,  it could be a
wet month is true!! We had rain on the full moon night - so theres so more
"cheese for the melting pot"! Already we had received more than we did in
October, with further heavy rain & Thunderstorms predicted today.

Paul from Taree

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 02:13:38 GMT
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On Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:55:04 +1100, Mark Hardy wrote:

>
>Does anybody know if the UK prog charts are available


Mark, this topic comes up routinely on uk.sci.weather, and the answer
from the locals is always no -- not even for Europe/Atlantic. Some
Bracknell stuff for the North Atlantic is available via the NWS -- see
Roger Brugge's links list for details at
http://www.met.rdg.ac.uk/~brugge/index.html.

http://www.magma.ca/~intermet/metmodin.htm has a useful list of models
available on the web, 

Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: Blair Trewin 
Subject: aussie-weather: Major rain situation developing for SA/Victoria
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It looks as if a major rain situation is developing for this week
over SA and Victoria, with a trough deepening (and eventually forming
into a closed low on most models) over central Australia and gradually
edging south.

The only numerical precipitation models I've seen so far (the 
Bureau GASP and LAPS) suggest widespread falls in excess of 50mm from
this system, locally somewhat more (LAPS is going for 80mm in the
area NW of Port Augusta in the 24 hours ending 1200Z tomorrow). For
other models (ECMWF, UKMO, US) I've only seen the surface pressure
and 1000-500 hPa thicknesses, but these are all pretty consistent 
with GASP (or, in the ECMWF's case, even more dramatic).

I'd expect the heaviest rain to be in areas with some topography, such
as the Flinders Ranges, the northern slopes of the Grampians and 
Central Highlands in Victoria, possibly extending east to the 
Victorian Alps depending on the system's track. Storm totals locally
in excess of 200mm in favoured locations seem to be on the cards. 
This would probably mean quite a bit of local flooding, especially in
SA.

The track of the low (if it forms) will determine how much Melbourne
and Adelaide see out of this.

Blair Trewin

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Some interesting weather developing in NE SA this afternoon....


 PRIORITY - FOR BROADCAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
 Bureau of Meteorology Adelaide
 Issued at 11.35 am on   Monday , 09/11/98
 Correction to previous advice issued.

 For people in the NORTHEAST Pastoral district, northeast of Arkaroola
 to Lake Eyre North.

 Very heavy rain is likely, and severe winds and large hail are
 possible, with thunderstorms northeast of Arkaroola to Lake Eyre
 North this afternoon.

 Localised flash flooding and damage is possible.  People are advised
 to take precautions, such as to secure loose outside objects, move
 vehicles under cover and avoid flooded roads and watercourses.

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:16:34 +1100
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Michael, I think there were problems with the radar repeating the previous
day's activity???

Jimmy
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>No warnings out, which is surprising as there large storms in the area with
>>100mm per hour reflect.
>
>( 11pm Friday )
>
>
>Michael Thompson
>http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Those storms have some very long anvils. This means there is some high level
winds which should aid the development of severe thunderstorms.

Jimmy
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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: qld storms
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:59:49 +1000
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Hi all

You should all be watching the energex lightning detection.  There's intense
activity NW of Brisbane in a line from Nambour through Kingaroy and west.
No warnings. Don't be surprised if one is issued for the Wide Bay area (even
though the 00z soundings didn't indicate severe storms)

To our SW there are several CB popping up including one that should produce
lightning soon.  We now have E or ESE winds so perhaps the atmosphere south
of the main storms isn't so conducive to prolonged t'storm activity.  But
anyway that storm to the SW shouldn't affect us as its also moving north.
Other weak activity on the Border Ranges inland of the Gold Coast isn't
doing so well.

I live in hope
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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:39:02 +1100
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I will be placing the date on future posts as a few have taken over 48 hours
to get thru. The problem I am sure is with OzeMails mail server, there is a
separate prob where people are receiving up to 100 copies of certain junk
mails. I did hear the word " mail bomb " used. I think their server is
overloaded.

Just letting you know in case the posts don't make sense.

Michael Thompson
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:06:19 +1100
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That line of storms which approached from the WSW on Saturday evening
produced some excellent CC and CG lightening displays, an approaching
wind front, some 0.5 to 1cm hail and overflowed the gutters for a good
few minutes. 

>From what I could tell within our dry, homely but lofty 180 degree
perspective at Lindfield facing NNW at 22:00 was that the main body of
the storm passed from near Epping up towards Wahroonga (wish I had
radar) during the period. Nevertheless, when lightening illuminated
the approaching storm, the backlit green colour of hail within the
area of heavy precipitation was clearly visible. My wife laughed at my
prediction of hail and scolded me for putting the car under cover
(braving our car-damaged carport). She was a lot more trusting and
humble when hail pounded on the skylights for about 3 minutes or so.
Most of the main storm passed within 30 minutes or so.

Now I wish that there was some 'net guidance on storm photography and
video. I had the video camera ready but to get decent footage
(particularly at night), I needed an observatory with no perimeter
glass outside in the weather. Some sort of lightening trigger for the
still camera would also be an advantage

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:36:11 +1100
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Yes I agree totally Michael and I am glad someone got hail. From the
structure I observed, I was prediciting hail to fall. And yes the light
green tinge is observable at night. I have footage of the storm but I will
have to view sometime when I get a chance.

Thank Michael

Regards Jimmy Deguara


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Scollay 
To: Aussie Weather 
Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:28 PM
Subject: aussie-weather: Sydney Storms 199811071100 UTC


>That line of storms which approached from the WSW on Saturday evening
>produced some excellent CC and CG lightening displays, an approaching
>wind front, some 0.5 to 1cm hail and overflowed the gutters for a good
>few minutes.
>
>>From what I could tell within our dry, homely but lofty 180 degree
>perspective at Lindfield facing NNW at 22:00 was that the main body of
>the storm passed from near Epping up towards Wahroonga (wish I had
>radar) during the period. Nevertheless, when lightening illuminated
>the approaching storm, the backlit green colour of hail within the
>area of heavy precipitation was clearly visible. My wife laughed at my
>prediction of hail and scolded me for putting the car under cover
>(braving our car-damaged carport). She was a lot more trusting and
>humble when hail pounded on the skylights for about 3 minutes or so.
>Most of the main storm passed within 30 minutes or so.
>
>Now I wish that there was some 'net guidance on storm photography and
>video. I had the video camera ready but to get decent footage
>(particularly at night), I needed an observatory with no perimeter
>glass outside in the weather. Some sort of lightening trigger for the
>still camera would also be an advantage
>
>Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:21:07 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius 
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Hi all, sorry to do this as it's more of a personal email, but I deleted
some emails this morning and I don't have this person's email address.

This is directed to Bodie (Ben)

I was away on IRC, but when I came back I saw you had written this:
 BTW: we had golf ball size hail in a town NW of us today ;)
 thought i might share that with you ;)

And I was wondering what source did you get this from?
Thanks
Anthony (Cyclone)

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I have some detailed tips on lightning photography on my web page here:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1801/
Just click on the link to "photographic tips"

I have not done much with video so will not advise on that. Until digital
photography improves (in pixel resolution), still photography using
traditional film produces the best results.

regards, Michael


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:09:33 -0800
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Cornelius 
To: Australian Weather Mailing List 
Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 1:24 AM
Subject: aussie-weather: Kingaroy Storms


>Hi all, sorry to do this as it's more of a personal email, but I deleted
>some emails this morning and I don't have this person's email address.
>
>This is directed to Bodie (Ben)
>
>I was away on IRC, but when I came back I saw you had written this:
> BTW: we had golf ball size hail in a town NW of us today ;)
> thought i might share that with you ;)
>
>And I was wondering what source did you get this from?
>Thanks
>Anthony (Cyclone)
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

I got this from Wilkie ;) It was from an observer in nannango (Approx. 20km
SE of Kingaroy), dont know if it is true, but he mentioned it anyway. My
email is Bodie at corplink.com.au

l8tr

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fyi...

>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Saturday 7th Nov 1998 10:00pm Landilo to Glenmore Park
>
>This was one of the most spectacular storms I have seen for some time.
>
>I knew the day had been hot and a little humid around Glenmore Park in
Sydneys West. I noticed small cell formation to the north. These cells
moved of to the N/E and produced no real results in our area. Humidity
however seemed to increase on dusk.
>
>At about 7:00pm we left for Landilo to a function in 6th Rd. There was
still not a lot of action and it was getting dark so cloud formation ID was
a little hard. After sitting through a nice feed and the presentations I
noticed that the temperature was dropping and the wind was moving the
decerations in the hall. This meant the wind was S/W. 
>
>My wife told me that she had been watching a storm from where she was
sitting for some time. I had my back to the west and so had not seen the
preceeding action. Fortunately all was not lost.
>
>We left the function about 10:00, as the wind picked up and lighting
shafts where forming some good solid strikes around 5 - 7km away (still no
rain). We first headed east along sixth rd with the lighting behind us. We
then turned S/W (road name unknown) for about 2 minutes. The strikes where
definately close, say 2 - 3km. I estimate from the road map and the storm
action I later viewed that we where travelling along the front edge of the
storm. This positioned us to view some excellent white shaft lighting and
some green and purple tinged sheet lighting. The colouring I attribute to
cloud thickness and rain at the storm front. We travelled along Second Ave
and as we travelled we saw a huge strike I estimated to be 8-10km away
right after the strike there was an orange glow and then 2 green glows. I
havent been for a drive out that way or called Prospect power yet but it
looked as though a power sub-station or 33Kv stauntion may have been
cooked. After travelling along Second !
>Ave for a while we then turned west which I was hoping was right into the
face of the storm. The storm however moving in a N/E track moved around as
and would've past right over the Landilo area.
>
>We arrived home to watch storm action from my front yard in Glenmore Park
with good solid strikes north of Glenmore Park and the odd aerial action
overhead. 
>
>We did not experience much rain but I am still to contact Glenmore Park
Weather to find out Temp wind direction humidity and barometric to gain a
better picture of Saturday night.
>
>and no (hitting myself with a hammer on the head) I did not have a camera.
But if this is any indication of what Summer is going to dish up. It could
be great.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Stuart Woodcock
>Glenmore Park Stormwatch
>
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>(date)  Saturday 7th Nov 1998 10:00pm report
>(location)  Landillo, Glenmore Park
>(email)  stuart at pmmsystems.aust.com
>(name)  Stuart Woodcock

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From: "paulmoss" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:16:21 +1100
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Howdy all!!
I received 78mm in the 24hr period 3pm 8.11 - 3pm 9.11.98

Most of that was received in 2 hours during the week cell that pushed
through. 55mm in 2 hours


Anyone else with some decent figures??

paul

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:23:31 +1100
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http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199811090546.html

Jimmy
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:41:54 +1100
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Deguara 
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 9:27 PM
Subject: aussie-weather: Check out Brisbane storms


>http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199811090546.html
>
>Jimmy

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:57:57 +1100
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Yeah, I think I got 1mm from the storm Saturday night, but then again the 1
mm may have come later.

Michael

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Date: Monday, 9 November 1998 21:18
Subject: aussie-weather: Rainfall Figures (prob more for Lauriers benefit!!)


>Howdy all!!
>I received 78mm in the 24hr period 3pm 8.11 - 3pm 9.11.98
>
>Most of that was received in 2 hours during the week cell that pushed
>through. 55mm in 2 hours
>
>
>Anyone else with some decent figures??
>
>paul

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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I got 15mm from the Saturday storm but this includes a some rain later....
most in the storm though

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Rainfall Figures (prob more for Lauriers
benefit!!)


>Yeah, I think I got 1mm from the storm Saturday night, but then again the 1
>mm may have come later.
>
>Michael

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You can actually see on the radar that the squall line had a break in
southern Illawarra, the was not much south of us either, I think Kiama got
5mm.

Did Sunday amount to anything ? It was low cloud and drizzle here all day.
May be interesting this Thursday - Saturday !

Michael


-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Deguara 
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
Date: Monday, 9 November 1998 22:00
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Rainfall Figures (prob more for Lauriers
benefit!!)


>I got 15mm from the Saturday storm but this includes a some rain later....
>most in the storm though

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:18:17 +1100
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Sunday amounted to nothing as the low cloud came in from the E-SE
intitially. We had rain periods for several hours during the afternoon... I
suppose that no active electrical activity eventuated from too much
moisture. There were some nice large cumulus developing in a line just
before I called the chase. As I mentioned already, the low cloud stuffed
things up.

Jimmy
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Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Rainfall Figures (prob more for Lauriers
benefit!!)


>You can actually see on the radar that the squall line had a break in
>southern Illawarra, the was not much south of us either, I think Kiama got
>5mm.
>
>Did Sunday amount to anything ? It was low cloud and drizzle here all day.
>May be interesting this Thursday - Saturday !
>
>Michael

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:29:36 -0800
From: Michael Cross 
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hi anthony my name is michael cross im new to this so please bare with me.
could you please tell me where the damaging hail actually hit.
thanks....

Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> Hi all, sorry to do this as it's more of a personal email, but I deleted
> some emails this morning and I don't have this person's email address.
>
> This is directed to Bodie (Ben)
>
> I was away on IRC, but when I came back I saw you had written this:
>  BTW: we had golf ball size hail in a town NW of us today ;)
>  thought i might share that with you ;)
>
> And I was wondering what source did you get this from?
> Thanks
> Anthony (Cyclone)

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
To: 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:33:18 +1100
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Hi Michael,

How is it going. Jimmy Deguara here. Looks like it will be a good season
this year for you.

Jimmy Deguara
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Cross 
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Kingaroy Storms


>hi anthony my name is michael cross im new to this so please bare with me.
>could you please tell me where the damaging hail actually hit.
>thanks....

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:41:18 -0800
From: Michael Cross 
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hi jimmy michael cross here. have you heard of any damaging hail anywhere
lately.i heard there was hail in clarencetown a couple of weeks ago but the
details are sketchy im going to make some calls tomorrow. bye ..............
wizard

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Sunday amounted to nothing as the low cloud came in from the E-SE
> intitially. We had rain periods for several hours during the afternoon... I
> suppose that no active electrical activity eventuated from too much
> moisture. There were some nice large cumulus developing in a line just
> before I called the chase. As I mentioned already, the low cloud stuffed
> things up.
>
> Jimmy

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Sorry can't help Michael but heres hoping for a bit of activity soon. The
conditions are becoming more ideal

Jimmy
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From: Michael Cross 
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Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:40 PM
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>hi jimmy michael cross here. have you heard of any damaging hail anywhere
>lately.i heard there was hail in clarencetown a couple of weeks ago but the
>details are sketchy im going to make some calls tomorrow. bye
..............
>wizard

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:21:21 -0800
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The storms that produced the hail (The hail was reported by an unnoficial
observer) developed around the Crows Nest (approx. 35km NNE of
Toowoomba,Qld) at 12:30pm, and seemed to track north for around 2 to 3 hours
(This is going by a lightning tracker).  The hail was reported in Nanango
(approx. 60km N).  Although the storm seemed to be at its peak between
Nanango and Crows Nest, But there are mainly rural farms in this area.  Hope
i have been of help.

>hi anthony my name is michael cross im new to this so please bare with me.
>could you please tell me where the damaging hail actually hit.
>thanks....