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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: bris t'storm forecasts
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:27:44 +1000
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Hi all...this is probably the best forecast the BoM has given us since
January.

BRISBANE METROPOLITAN AREA
A few thundery showers developing during the day. Light to moderate
northeast
winds.
Brisbane Airport for Sunday     ... MIN  17   MAX  27
UV INDEX - 12 [Extreme]
Outlook for Monday     ... Chance of a thunderstorm   MAX  30
            Tuesday    ... Late thunderstorms         MAX  30
            Wednesday  ... Late thunderstorms       MAX29

The phrase is: "I'll believe it when I see it".  More and more lately I've
gone off their forecasts.  Example: 10pm 17/11/98 (Tues) forecast for 18/11
(Wed): "shower or two with fresh SE winds becoming strong".
Actuality: Humid with light winds then thunderstorms 11am - 12.30pm then
severe t'storms from 3.30 to 4pm!!
Well we should get something.

A hopeful James in Bris
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James Chambers
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 06:37:13 +1100
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I agree James. Thou shalt not listen to anyone elses forecast but your own.
You may incorporate information but that's it.

Jimmy Deguara
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From: James Chambers 
To: Aussie Weather 
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 1:28 AM
Subject: aussie-weather: bris t'storm forecasts


>Hi all...this is probably the best forecast the BoM has given us since
>January.
>
>BRISBANE METROPOLITAN AREA
>A few thundery showers developing during the day. Light to moderate
>northeast
>winds.
>Brisbane Airport for Sunday     ... MIN  17   MAX  27
>UV INDEX - 12 [Extreme]
>Outlook for Monday     ... Chance of a thunderstorm   MAX  30
>            Tuesday    ... Late thunderstorms         MAX  30
>            Wednesday  ... Late thunderstorms       MAX29
>
>The phrase is: "I'll believe it when I see it".  More and more lately I've
>gone off their forecasts.  Example: 10pm 17/11/98 (Tues) forecast for 18/11
>(Wed): "shower or two with fresh SE winds becoming strong".
>Actuality: Humid with light winds then thunderstorms 11am - 12.30pm then
>severe t'storms from 3.30 to 4pm!!
>Well we should get something.
>
>A hopeful James in Bris
>------------------------------------------------------
>James Chambers
>http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: bris t'storm forecasts
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:47:24 PST
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Hi all

Brisbane Forecast

Not a bad forecast at all and it gives us straved Melbourne people a 
chance to see some action while watching the cricket. Hopefully there 
will be a repeat of that famous storm a few years ago in Brissie when 
there was that severe hail storm at the ground and Deano had to take out 
the helmets to the ground staff.

Very Boring outlook for Melbourne for the next 4 days, probably wont get 
above 20, oh well less than 2 weeks until Darwin.

Nick. 

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: bris obs
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:50:53 +1000
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If I had up to date obs I'd give them to you!!

Just my obs.
It's warming up to now about 26 with a mod NNE wind and 3/8 cloud.  Most of
it is cumulus but all over I can see the clouds heightening with cu
congestus in abundance and some nice TCU out to the S, SW and W.  By
watching the cricket, if you look at the scoreboard from the pitch its to
the SSW or SW so that's where some action should come from.  "A shr or
t'storm" is now the forecast and I'd think that the latter is on offer
today.

Of course things change.  Be watching the cricket after the lunch break and
the Energex lightning detection: http://bastion.energex.com.au/strike/ ;
and regularly reload this sat pic: http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "James Chambers" 
To: "Aussie Weather" 
Subject: aussie-weather: first SEQ storm
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:57:10 +1000
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The first t'storm has developed west of Warwick.  You'll see lightning on
the Energex service in about 10 mins.  Many more should develop so I'll
report back when things get hectic.
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James Chambers
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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: seq storms
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:59:43 +1000
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Well you wouldn't know it by the fine weather at the 'Gabba, but we should
get a number of t'storms this afternoon.  Currently there's an intense area
around Warwick and to its NNW.  However all over there are single cells
dev'g including one fairly closely NW of the Gabba.  They seem to be moving
west-east today and any that move in a slightly different direction I'll be
watching very closely.
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: first SEQ storm
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 03:04:56 GMT
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On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:57:10 +1000, "James Chambers"
 wrote:

>The first t'storm has developed west of Warwick.  You'll see lightning on
>the Energex service in about 10 mins.  Many more should develop so I'll
>report back when things get hectic.

Radar shows quite a few echoes with a few to 20>40mm/hr in the
quadrant SW from Marburg (15km west of Ipswich), but the loop for the
last hour shows them growing to about this strength then dying back.
One or two up the coast near Gympie have developed in the past half
hour. Everything moving east at moderate speed.


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aussie-weather: Radar report 1998-11-22-2pm EDST
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 03:15:01 GMT
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I've just done a quick radar check for the whole continent, and it's
depressingly dull. Apart from the few flecks around Brisbane (see
separate posting) the only other activity is around Winton and
Longreach in Qld, and also quite an organised line runing WNW from
Charleville for a couple of hundred km.  The tropics are nearly dead,
apart from an active area about 100km NE of Willis Island.

-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:38:10 +0800
From: Michael Fewings 
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,

Perth once again has had a big change in weather.
Today low cloud and a bit of drizzle this morning after our hot day
yesterday.
I am glad I didn't chase yesterday because the storms left the west coast
very quickly and by midnight last night were based around Esperance (700 km
away!)
Sounds like James is going to have a little action today even if they don't
turn out to be severe.
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au

Laurier Williams wrote:

> I've just done a quick radar check for the whole continent, and it's
> depressingly dull. Apart from the few flecks around Brisbane (see
> separate posting) the only other activity is around Winton and
> Longreach in Qld, and also quite an organised line runing WNW from
> Charleville for a couple of hundred km.  The tropics are nearly dead,
> apart from an active area about 100km NE of Willis Island.
>
> --
> Laurier Williams
> Australian Weather Links and News
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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From: "James Chambers" 
To: "Aussie Weather" 
Subject: aussie-weather: seq storm update
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:27:17 +1000
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Well there's plenty of activity happening to the west and south of Brisbane
but nothing to the NW at this stage.  The Energex tracker is showing lots of
strikes.  A dead single cell storm is currently covering the 'Gabba but
nothing much should happen with that one.
There are strikes near Ipswich and I'll continue to watch closely and hope
they show a radar pic at the Tea Interval in the cricket.
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James Chambers
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From: "Kevin Phyland" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Hurricanes, Tornadoes and Lightning!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:27:34 PST
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Hi every1,
Just a reminder to those people with access to the Discovery Channel 
that there are a number of special hour-long docos on the above severe 
weather this coming week.
Get the video recorder ready! :))
Kevin.

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From: "James Chambers" 
To: "Aussie Weather" 
Subject: aussie-weather: seq storms on the way
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:24:12 +1000
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Hi all

It looks even though the storms are moving west-east they are progressing
slightly NNE as well.  A bit like the Oct 13 situation it seems.  It's
looking dark blue to the SW and there is the sound of continuous rolling
distant thunder.  (There's a better rumble then)  I would think the cricket
will be delayed or stopped early today.  We just had a weak single cell with
light rain in the southern suburbs but that should be just the start.  There
are no warnings yet. I'll have to unplug soon probably.
Some URLs to watch:
Eye on Brisbane: http://public.rome.net.au/PossumCam/
Energex lightning: http://bastion.energex.com.au/strike/
Sat pic: http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg

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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "Greg Spencer" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane Storms
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:49:56 +0800
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Hi All,

I have just seen the images on the cricket of the storms in Brisbane. Anyone
chasing over there is in for quite a treat. They are saying that play will
be stopped at any moment in the cricket. From looking at it, Im surpassed
that they BOM has not issued any form of warning for the area.

Regards

Greg Spencer

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:20:02 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
To: Aussie Weather 
Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Storms?
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>From the latest GMS-5 IR, it looks like some storm cells are developing in
the central west of NSW.  Also up towards Newcastle there could be some
activity.

- Paul G. 

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Paul Graham
m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au
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From: "James Chambers" 
To: "Aussie Weather" 
Subject: aussie-weather: seq storms on the way out
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:37:56 +1000
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Hi all

Quite a nice t'storm just came through.  I'm in the southern suburbs and we
were experiencing heavy rain and strong winds at least 25 mins before the
Gabba did.  Not severe.  We had about 20mm in 10mins and a total of 22mm.
Winds reached 70km/h with a sudden brief gust just before 4pm.  Where I am,
nothing was photogenic but very nice CG lightning is continuing but not as
close as it was.
There's a lesser risk of a storm tomorrow and increased likelihood of storms
on Tues and Wed.

James
(quite a satisfied storm watcher from Brisbane)
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "McDonald" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: lightning tracking for vics.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:01:14 +1100
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Hi all,

Nice storm in Brissie this arvo - saw it on the cricket.

I wrote to someone regarding lightning detection in victoria and got some
interesting information which is shown below.  


I WROTE.....

>Hi,
>
>I have seen the service which you provide to Energex in Queensland which
>detects lightning.  I am from Melbourne, Victoria and was wondering if you
>had this sort of information avaliable for Victorians.  I am interested in
>thunderstorms and this would come in very handy in order to photograph and
>chase thunderstorms.  Please email me with any details, if any, of a
>similar lightning detection service for victoria - I will be very grateful
>for anything you can tell me.
>
>Thankyou
>
>Andrew McDonald.


AND THE REPLY I GOT.....

Dear Andrew.
Our company has an Lightning Position & Tracking System (LPATS) installed
in Eastern Australia. We have receivers at East Sale, Canberra, Mildura and
Hobart to give excellent detection efficiency and locational accuracy in
Victoria. As yet we do not have any clients in Victoria although we are
vigorously chasing them. We are hopeful that prior to the end of 1998 we
will have a few utilities and a few governmental agencies as clients. It is
possible that one of these utilities may embark on a similar path to
Energex.
If your interest is purely photographic, perhaps you could inform us of
your base and geographic area of interest and I'm sure we can work out an
arrangement.

Regards,

Max Thomson
<
Marketing Manager



Sounds interesting - I'm currently looking further into this and will
notify all of anything interesting I can get.

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ok well i just watched the news and i cant ever remember seeing a forcast
like this in my life..
Storms "chaces of's and Likely"s on
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday , and if you include today
thats 6 out of 7 days the BOM would have forcast storms, even though none
eventuated today... 
actually i wouldnt be surprised if we got storms on thursday, the day there
not forcast , and no storms any other day..
hehe still, looks like an interesting week comming up i hope!!!
Matt

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From: "Ben Quinn" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Spectacular
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:48:51 -0800
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>Hi all
>
>Quite a nice t'storm just came through.  I'm in the southern suburbs and we
>were experiencing heavy rain and strong winds at least 25 mins before the
>Gabba did.  Not severe.  We had about 20mm in 10mins and a total of 22mm.
>Winds reached 70km/h with a sudden brief gust just before 4pm.  Where I am,
>nothing was photogenic but very nice CG lightning is continuing but not as
>close as it was.
>There's a lesser risk of a storm tomorrow and increased likelihood of
storms
>on Tues and Wed.
>
>James
>(quite a satisfied storm watcher from Brisbane)
>------------------------------------------------------
>James Chambers
>http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
>


What a storm here in redcliffe (NE Brisbane).  I just witnessed an amazing
sight, it is 6:30 and a storm had just passed over giving us 23mm in around
15mins.  As the storm moved out onto Moreton Bay it intensified rapidly,
Producing constant deafening Cg lightning for around 10 mins.  As the storm
moved further away and the cloud started breaking the sun came out and
produced a brillian full rainbow between the now jet black stom and myself.
With Cg lightning and a few anvil crawlers going off under this rainbow it
was a sight and a half.  As i clicked away on my camera i realised i had no
film in it (!!!) .. and none in the house :( So that was a shame.  Here is
the Energex Lightning tracker at almost the exact time this occured, at over
118 strikes every 5 mins
www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/6306/6pmltngtracker.gif
I still have constant rolling thunder, so hopefully it will last till the
sun goes down :)

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Subject: aussie-weather: storms on the goldy
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hey all,
some cool thunder and some nice black clouds hovering at the moment! no
rain yet. there is this nice highrise building down the road, and the top
of it looks like something out of a fairy tale, castle like structure, and
the black clouds are rolling behind it. looks really cool!
steve

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Subject: aussie-weather: gold coast storm
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that storm that came through produced some nice CG lightning, and light
rain. best gold coast has had in a long time:)
steve

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From: "dpn" 
To: 
Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning Tracking 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:03:28 +1100
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Hey Andrew that lightning info would be great. I wonder how much they would
charge for it. probably plenty. But you never know maybe if a group of us
got together we could do a deal with them who knows. Keep us informed. Dane
Newman   

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hey,
look at all that activity in the northern territory!! looks like a nice
place to be at the moment! we are still getting the occassional lightning
here at the gold coast, but the lightning tracker isn't showing it.
steve

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:44:53 +1100
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I must admit I am too much of a weather model watcher, if you want to see
just how much two models can vary in 60 hours look at the NGP and AVN. NGP
has a low forming off the coast with some storm activity mainly northern
NSW, whilst AVN has a full on inland low dragging loads of moisture and
triggering major activity.  These are both more accurate than anu news 6 day
outlook, and yet they vary heaps less than 3 days out.

Tomorrow by the way looks like Sydney - Wollongong may just be a smidge too
far south.

Michael







>ok well i just watched the news and i cant ever remember seeing a forcast
>like this in my life..
>Storms "chaces of's and Likely"s on
>Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday , and if you include today
>thats 6 out of 7 days the BOM would have forcast storms, even though none
>eventuated today...
>actually i wouldnt be surprised if we got storms on thursday, the day there
>not forcast , and no storms any other day..
>hehe still, looks like an interesting week comming up i hope!!!
>Matt

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Thanks Michael for pointing out the AVN prognosis - I had become somewhat
depressed after looking at NGP - especially towards next weekend. I know NGP
gets pretty unreliable that far out but it's mid latitude predictions tend
to be more reliable than for the tropics (ie the TC NGP was trying to
develop off WA last week). I am bracing myself for a period of westerlies
coming up later in the week.

After spending today in a westerly with DP hovering around minus 8 or 9 in
Canberra for most of today, I am really looking forward to that!!

Patrick

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning detection and mammatus?
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Hi Andrew 

I haven't seen a response to this, so....

On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:40:08 +1100, "McDonald" 
wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>Melbourne may get a storm on sat/sun if we are lucky but that is not what
>I'm writing for.  Two questions.
>
>1.  Energex lightning detection - is there a similar service in Victoria?
>
I'm not aware of any such system for Melbourne, or, for that matter,
anywhere in Aus other than Brisbane. Anyone else know...

>2.  Mammatus - During the past year I have observed mammatus within 5km of
>my house at least 12 times with about half of these being altocumulus
>mammatus and the other half being observed with thunderstorms.  (I think
>there are two types??)  I was curious as to the reason why this has
>occurred so frequently in such a small area?  There isn't much influence
>from hills/mountains or significant increases in the number of buildings. 
>Just curious as to why this may have occurred.  I have some great photo's
>of mammatus but I don't have a scanner - I'm organising getting the
>scanned.
>
Where abouts in Vic are you?


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aussie-weather: Special BoM Australia Day effort?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:16:55 GMT
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I'm not sure what's brewing, but go to
http://www.bom.gov.au/oa/index.shtml and have a look. Most of the
links don't yet work, but we may be in for some freebies!


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Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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Document: 981122.htm
Updated: 24th November, 1998

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