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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 12th December 1998

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001 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               It's Hot.  Damn Hot!!!
002 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    qld TC dev't soon?
003 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Home Page URLs?
004 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Temps in Adelaide
005 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]         A few marks to keep an eye on in Melbourne and
006 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chase
007 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Mushroom Cloud
008 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Australia's highest paid meteorological consultants
009 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Mushroom Cloud
010 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Home Page URLs?
011 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm chase
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   My  Tornado pics are up.
013 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chase
014 pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au                  Canberra Obs 12.30 EDT
015 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Canberra Obs 12.30 EDT
016 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Learning Curve
017 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Chase to Picton - Razorback Lookout
018 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            Soundings Page
019 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            Learning Curve
020 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]        GMS-5 Satellite Imagery????
021 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]        GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
022 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
023 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             (no subject)
024 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]        GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
025 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        chasing
026 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]         GMS-5 Satellite Imagery????
027 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
028 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Re:  chasing
029 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Thanks
030 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]        (no subject)

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001

From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: It's Hot.  Damn Hot!!!
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:33:08 +1100
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Hi all,

It's past midnight in melbourne but it's 35 degrees inside our house (no
air conditioning) and way too hot to sleep.  Tomorrow looks like another
scorcher with 41 predicted.  Bit of Cu around for a while this arvo
although i didn't expect anything.  Hopefully tomorrow arvo will fire up a
bit in storm starved melbourne.

It seems as though TC Thelma is weakening as quickly as it intensified.  '

Has anyone heard from the guys who went north?????

Current melbourne temperature at 12:38am is 28.8 degrees.

See ya

Andrew McDonald

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002

From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: qld TC dev't soon?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:55:07 +1000
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Hi all...after just getting back from work I noticed the first news in Qld's
Tropical Cyclone Info for a while:

TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK
for the Coral Sea West of Longitude 160 East
Issued at 3:21pm on Friday the 11th of December 1998

At the present time there are no significant tropical disturbances in the
Coral
Sea. However a low is expected to develop over the central Coral Sea on
Sunday
and there is a moderate chance of its developing into a tropical cyclone on
Monday.

.....We'll have to keep watching the TC Outlooks and the satellite images -
nothing right now points to a potential TC, but we'll see.
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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003

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:02:39 -0600
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
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If you have a weather related home page, please send me your URL.  I'd
like to add a link from:

http://www.pulse.net/storm/chaser.htm

Thanks,

Sam Barricklow

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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 02:36:49 +0800
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From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Temps in Adelaide, Melbourne and Hobart
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Some amazing temps currently being reported in Adelaide, Melbourne and even
Hobart.

Adelaide at 4:20am CDT had a temperature of 33C, Melbourne at 5:15am EDT
had 30.6C, and Hobart Airport at 5:05am EDT was reporting 27.0C.

Melbourne dipped below 28C before 1am EDT, but went up again soon after.

Jacob

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005

From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: A few marks to keep an eye on in Melbourne and
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:54:02 +1300
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> Of course, the minimum temperature records in Sydney and Melbourne
> will take a lot of breaking because of urbanisation. In particular,
> I doubt that Melbourne's -2.8 is going to fall this side of the next
> Ice Age. (Laverton, which is very similarly situated in terms of
> topography and distance from the sea, recorded ~-4.5 in 1982, but 
> Melbourne only got -0.7).

While urbanisation certainly prevents temperatures from falling to what
they might have fallen to in the previous rural environment, having city
weather stations in the middle of parks may help give more realistic
readings, though I don't know by how much. Here in Christchurch, city
readings are taken in the botannical gardens, which are very close to the
city centre, but are the largest area in the city which hasn't been built
up.

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006

From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storm chase
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:00:01 +1100
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Jimmy here,
Very large cumulus developing or exploding to the far SW probably towards
Goulbourn. We can try chase there or wait until some action occurs here...

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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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007

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Mushroom Cloud
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:04:21 +1100
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Had a unplanned storm chase yesterday ( Friday 11th ) I had to get my car
serviced at Campbelltown in Sydney's far SW. Picked it up at 3pm and a small
cell had gone up just to the SW. A complete lack of upper level winds led to
the anvil spreading out in a almost circular fashion, like a nuclear blast.
Took a couple of photos and decided to chase it down.

Caught the cell in the small town of The Oaks, out near the Burragowang
Valley, some briefly heavy rain, but there was little drift from the storm,
the rain barely made it to Picton, only 15 kms away. Outflow helped develop
some storms further towards the N/NW. But nothing southwards.

At home in Wollongong at 5pm and you could not see a single Cu in the sky,
the severe smog from the weak seabreeze inversion was partially to blame.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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008

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Australia's highest paid meteorological consultants
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:08:38 +1100
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I even had an E Mail from an Indian gent during the Brisbane test, wanting
to know weather conditions, I certainly did not get any fee, steered him to
the BOM page anyway.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Hardy 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Friday, 11 December 1998 12:34
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Australia's highest paid meteorological
>consultants
>
>
>Ha ha
>
>I remember during my time in the Sydney BoM the phones would run hot
>whenever there was an international cricket match in town. On some days we
>would get over 40 calls a day from the sub-continent ( mostly from Bombay).
>If only I had known the advice was so valuable......

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Mushroom Cloud
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:42:51 +1100
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Michael, we were not far from you at Silverdale and photographed at as well
and then chased the one near St Marys which gave very heavy rain and then
dissipated.

Jimmy
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>From: Michael Thompson 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:39 AM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Mushroom Cloud
>
>
>Had a unplanned storm chase yesterday ( Friday 11th ) I had to get my car
>serviced at Campbelltown in Sydney's far SW. Picked it up at 3pm and a
small
>cell had gone up just to the SW. A complete lack of upper level winds led
to
>the anvil spreading out in a almost circular fashion, like a nuclear blast.
>Took a couple of photos and decided to chase it down.
>
>Caught the cell in the small town of The Oaks, out near the Burragowang
>Valley, some briefly heavy rain, but there was little drift from the storm,
>the rain barely made it to Picton, only 15 kms away. Outflow helped develop
>some storms further towards the N/NW. But nothing southwards.
>
>At home in Wollongong at 5pm and you could not see a single Cu in the sky,
>the severe smog from the weak seabreeze inversion was partially to blame.
>
>Michael Thompson

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010

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Home Page URLs?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:55:27 +1100
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Hi Sam,

You also have mine ( thanks ), my site is also mirrored at
http://thunder.simplenet.com  this may load faster overseas.

I will put a link in from my page.

Regards
Michael



>If you have a weather related home page, please send me your URL.  I'd
>like to add a link from:
>
>http://www.pulse.net/storm/chaser.htm
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sam Barricklow

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011

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chase
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:46:18 +1100
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Hi Jimmy

I am available for a chase today, I can't see the Cu from here, despite the
fact I'm closer, I will let you know if I decide to head out. Just hope
there is some upper winds, the storms yesterday fell in on themselves,
almost text book single cell storms.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jimmy Deguara 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Saturday, 12 December 1998 11:01
>Subject: aussie-weather: Storm chase
>
>
>Jimmy here,
>Very large cumulus developing or exploding to the far SW probably towards
>Goulbourn. We can try chase there or wait until some action occurs here...

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012

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: My  Tornado pics are up.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:52:36 +1100
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Thanks for the story and pics, they are excellent. I really enjoyed reading
you report.

Was the wheat already harvested, even rainfall like the stuff washing the
gutters in one of your first pics could potentially ruin a crop.

Anyother interesting part was the two girls referring to it as a "
cockeyed", I have heard this before, but it's free use tends to tell me that
these events are not that rare !

Another thing is the colour of the storm, I have seen several WA storm pics
now and they seem to have a totally different look to the east coast storms.

Regards
Michael

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013

From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chase
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:53:52 +1100
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We have a choice of going on the mtns or down towards Goulbourn.... Michael
or whoever else...

Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Thompson 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:51 AM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chase
>
>
>Hi Jimmy
>
>I am available for a chase today, I can't see the Cu from here, despite the
>fact I'm closer, I will let you know if I decide to head out. Just hope
>there is some upper winds, the storms yesterday fell in on themselves,
>almost text book single cell storms.
>
>Michael

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From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:33:59 +1100
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Lots of congestus developing in all directions. Today looks much better than
yesterday for some action - there are lots of rapidly developing tall
cumulus off to the far west. The problem of the last couple of days has been
the lack of moisture as soon as the NW wind set in. The clouds to the west
suggest that problem is unlikely to recur today. Also the dissipation
evident at around 3 - 4km yesterday is absent. So I would expect storms to
develop within the next 1-2 hours over the Brindabellas and become more
widespread elsewhere a bit later.

The Goulburn area looks pretty active from this angle.

I would like to meet some Sydney chasers at some stage (when conditions are
right for SW of Sydney) but unfortunately can't today. Canberra should fire
this afternoon in any case.

Good chasing for those who go,

Current Canberra temp 31.9, DP 13.9 (which is not by southern tableland
standards!!)

Patrick

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Canberra Obs 12.30 EDT
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:55:51 +1100
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We have hit 36 with a similar situation of cumulus and some larger ones to
the W-SW. They seem to be moving in a SE direction which is more
encouraging. Something different

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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
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homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
-----Original Message-----
>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 12:34 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Canberra Obs 12.30 EDT
>
>
>Lots of congestus developing in all directions. Today looks much better
than
>yesterday for some action - there are lots of rapidly developing tall
>cumulus off to the far west. The problem of the last couple of days has
been
>the lack of moisture as soon as the NW wind set in. The clouds to the west
>suggest that problem is unlikely to recur today. Also the dissipation
>evident at around 3 - 4km yesterday is absent. So I would expect storms to
>develop within the next 1-2 hours over the Brindabellas and become more
>widespread elsewhere a bit later.
>
>The Goulburn area looks pretty active from this angle.
>
>I would like to meet some Sydney chasers at some stage (when conditions are
>right for SW of Sydney) but unfortunately can't today. Canberra should fire
>this afternoon in any case.
>
>Good chasing for those who go,
>
>Current Canberra temp 31.9, DP 13.9 (which is not by southern tableland
>standards!!)
>
>Patrick

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016

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:36:02 +1100 (EST)
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Learning Curve
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Hi All,

Just joined aussie-weather and really don't know much about the weather
but I would love to learn.  Been watching weather for a lot of years and
having been born and raised on the far north coast have seen some lovely
storms.  But still want to learn more about what Im looking at and why its
happening.  Anyone able to point me in the right directions to start
learning?

Thanks

Susan

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017

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Chase to Picton - Razorback Lookout
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:56:06 +1100
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Can see some tall congestus from here, so I am off to Razorback lookout fro
a better view, will be there from 3.00 -3.15pm, if anybody interested.

Catch is I have to go out tonight, so can only chase to 5.30 at latest.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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018

From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Soundings Page
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:04:52 +1100
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Hey

I now have my Atmospheric Soundings page on the net at
www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/6306/soundings.htm
At the moment it still has a few holes in it, a few Indicies are missing but
i will add them as i go along (most if not all of the more commonly used
Indicies are there).  I HIGHLY recommend becoming familiar with the indicies
as i see them as a great forecasting tool (although the Soundings from
University of Wyoming could be a little more timely).  Hope someone gets
some use out of the page ..

l8tr
Bodie at corplink.com.au

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019

From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Learning Curve
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:43:35 +1100
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>
>Hi All,
>
>Just joined aussie-weather and really don't know much about the weather
>but I would love to learn.  Been watching weather for a lot of years and
>having been born and raised on the far north coast have seen some lovely
>storms.  But still want to learn more about what Im looking at and why its
>happening.  Anyone able to point me in the right directions to start
>learning?
>
>Thanks
>
>Susan
>


Hello Susan

I have basically only just started learning the theory side of weather
myself, and i found this site
http://www.gilbertzone.com/beginner/beginner.html
to easily be one of the best sites on the internet. Keep in mind that most
of the information you find there is for the northern hemisphere (eg.
Cyclones rotate anti-clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and clockwise in
the southern).

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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:17:51 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: GMS-5 Satellite Imagery????
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Hi everyone, 

What has happened to the US Navy's GMS-5 satellite imagery
(http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gms.html). They are not displaying imagery for
Australia...Does anyone know what has happened???  

- Paul G. 

----------------------------
Paul Graham
paul at marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:37:08 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
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Hi everyone, 

Sadly, our sources of satellite imagery appear to have been cut-off - I
have my suspicions.  We're going to have to get our own satellite imagery
now - anyone willing to put a GMS receiving station together?  I think
GMS-5 APT transmissions are up around the 1.6 Ghz region.  It would be
good to get the HRPT images though and link them onto a web page.  This is
something I for one would like to do - is anyone interested?
Perhaps our newly formed Australian Severe Weather Society may at some
stage put some money aside for this venture?  
At this stage, I would like to point out that no single organisation
(apart from perhaps the Japan Meteorological Organisation) can claim
ownership to these images since they are free to receive by anyone who has
the right sort of receiver and computer...I hate to think that one day the
transmissions will be encrypted and you will have to pay for a the
decryption key...I hope this will never happen. 

- Paul G. 

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Paul Graham
paul at marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:52:12 +1100
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>Hi everyone,
>
>Sadly, our sources of satellite imagery appear to have been cut-off - I
>have my suspicions.  We're going to have to get our own satellite imagery
>now - anyone willing to put a GMS receiving station together?  I think
>GMS-5 APT transmissions are up around the 1.6 Ghz region.  It would be
>good to get the HRPT images though and link them onto a web page.  This is
>something I for one would like to do - is anyone interested?
>Perhaps our newly formed Australian Severe Weather Society may at some
>stage put some money aside for this venture?
>At this stage, I would like to point out that no single organisation
>(apart from perhaps the Japan Meteorological Organisation) can claim
>ownership to these images since they are free to receive by anyone who has
>the right sort of receiver and computer...I hate to think that one day the
>transmissions will be encrypted and you will have to pay for a the
>decryption key...I hope this will never happen.
>
>- Paul G.
>


Hey Paul,

I am having no trouble getting any GMS-5 satellite pictures, although for a
few hours earlier thisafternoon i could not get any for Australia.  As i
said in an earlier post this week, the satellite seems to go out of range
(or something of the likes) for a few hours during the coarse of the day.
Sometimes this is Early afternoon, or late at night (probably other times as
well). I've emailed various people about this (i had before and recieved a
reply, but have since deleted it) and i'm fairly sure this is what they will
tell me.

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Paul

I'm still seeing images from
http://www.npmocw.navy.mil/npmocw/prods/products/wpac/Satellites/aust_IR.jpg

Mark

----------
>From: Paul Graham 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Subject: aussie-weather: GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
>Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:37
>

>Hi everyone, 
>
>Sadly, our sources of satellite imagery appear to have been cut-off - I
>have my suspicions.  We're going to have to get our own satellite imagery
>now - anyone willing to put a GMS receiving station together?  I think
>GMS-5 APT transmissions are up around the 1.6 Ghz region.  It would be
>good to get the HRPT images though and link them onto a web page.  This is
>something I for one would like to do - is anyone interested?
>Perhaps our newly formed Australian Severe Weather Society may at some
>stage put some money aside for this venture?  
>At this stage, I would like to point out that no single organisation
>(apart from perhaps the Japan Meteorological Organisation) can claim
>ownership to these images since they are free to receive by anyone who has
>the right sort of receiver and computer...I hate to think that one day the
>transmissions will be encrypted and you will have to pay for a the
>decryption key...I hope this will never happen. 
>
>- Paul G. 

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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:58:03 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
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Hi Mark, Ben and everyone else,
	It would seem that I have cried wolf since the images are still
around.  However, I was pretty concerned when I looked at two separate
sites:  http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gms.shtml and
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5wv.html which both showed the
southern Hemisphere blank - I have never seen this before and incorrectly
assumed that the resources had been permanently removed.
	
It would still be very useful to be able to receive high resolution,
up-to-date, GMS-5 images using a radio and computer.  Possibly the most
expensive item would be the satellite dish, but you may be able to pick up
something second-hand.  Amateur radio operators have been receiving
satellite imagery for many years now and have published books on this
subject.  I haven't read any books specifically on this subject (have read
the chapter in the ARRL Handbook though), but there is a book called: 
"Viewing the Earth from Space" by James R Buchanan and is available from
Woodhouse Communication, PO Box 73, Plainwell, Michigan 49080-0073, USA
and, from the review I have seen, it looks to be very informative (have a
look at: http://www.view2earth.com).  

Once a year, radio amateurs have a "Let's exchange electronic junk day" at
Gosford sometime in late February.  Every year (have been 4 or 5 times
now) I have seen people there with GMS-5 receiving equipment - there is
also a lot of second hand radio junk which could be very useful.  So
perhaps this is the time and place to look?  Some Amateurs in Australia
have formed the Remote Imaging Group for people who are interested in
receiving their own images.  Their web address is:
http://users.batemansbay.com/msr 

I think to get the high quality GMS-5 images, you would need to receive
the HRPT transmission (high res. picture transmission) which is a digital
transmission and requires a more specialised setup.  APT, which is the
analogue transmission, would be cheaper but the resolution may not be very
high.  Someone who might know more about how to receive GMS imagery is a
fellow by the name of Arthur Andrews  who writes a
monthly column in the Australian Radio and Communications Magazine.  His
articles are primarily about the polar orbiting satellites, but I'm sure
he would still know about what is required for GMS...  I am still very
interested in setting up something like this, Mark, so if you are
interested, I'll see if I can find out approximately how much it would
cost. 
	Cheers,
		Paul G.


----------------------------
Paul Graham
paul at marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au
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On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Mark Hardy wrote:

> Paul
> 
> I'm still seeing images from
> http://www.npmocw.navy.mil/npmocw/prods/products/wpac/Satellites/aust_IR.jpg
> 
> Mark

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: chasing
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:35:34 +1100
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It looks as though Tuesday is going to be a big day for chasing In Central
Eastern NSW including Sydney. We will see as it gets closer.

Jimmy
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:19:56 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Hi Paul
           Ive had no problems at all today just checked again 19:20 DST
Melbourne
Brian Wheldon Gembrook Victoria.

Paul Graham wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> What has happened to the US Navy's GMS-5 satellite imagery
> (http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gms.html). They are not displaying imagery for
> Australia...Does anyone know what has happened???
>
> - Paul G.

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Subject: aussie-weather: Re:  chasing
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 98 19:43:10 +1000
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>It looks as though Tuesday is going to be a big day for chasing In Central
>Eastern NSW including Sydney. We will see as it gets closer.
Hi Jimmy and everyone

I just mentioned the same to Paul. Luckily, I am off work this week and 
am available to chase on Tuesday.

I saw some orphan anvils beyond Sydney's west and south west earlier this 
afternoon and also one ot two which appeared to be active.  Fairly 
fibrous stuff though and they seemed to dissipate quite rapidly so I 
guess they were the same short lived single cell stuff that you guys 
chased yesterday. 

Anyway, anyone else not working on Tuesday?? (assuming things pan out as 
predicted). Perhaps we can get a few cars out over the blue mounatins for 
a chase.

Cheers

David C 

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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 21:23:52 +1100
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Hi David and everyone,

I also dont have to work this week so I would be available to go on any
chase that anyone was planning on organising.

At sunset today there was a spectacular single cell storm with a well
defined round anvil to the west of the mountains. I hope things start to
liven up here as we are well overdue for some action. Tuesday could well be
the day.

Matthew Piper

-----Original Message-----
>From: mildad 
>To: aussie-weather 
>Date: Saturday, 12 December 1998 19:40
>Subject: aussie-weather: Re: chasing
>
>
>>It looks as though Tuesday is going to be a big day for chasing In Central
>>Eastern NSW including Sydney. We will see as it gets closer.
>Hi Jimmy and everyone
>
>I just mentioned the same to Paul. Luckily, I am off work this week and
>am available to chase on Tuesday.
>
>I saw some orphan anvils beyond Sydney's west and south west earlier this
>afternoon and also one ot two which appeared to be active.  Fairly
>fibrous stuff though and they seemed to dissipate quite rapidly so I
>guess they were the same short lived single cell stuff that you guys
>chased yesterday.
>
>Anyway, anyone else not working on Tuesday?? (assuming things pan out as
>predicted). Perhaps we can get a few cars out over the blue mounatins for
>a chase.
>
>Cheers
>
>David C

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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:43:19 +1100
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
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To all you blokes who respond to my request for learning info on weather
conditions and  etc. a big thank you.  Got a lot of learning to do it
seems

Susan

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Paul

You're right the HRPT transmission is the one to get if you want the 1km vis
images. I am interested in setting up a station, so please find out the
costs and all the other info.

Cheers, Mark
----------
>From: Paul Graham 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMS-5 Satellite Imagery..
>Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:58
>
>I think to get the high quality GMS-5 images, you would need to receive
>the HRPT transmission (high res. picture transmission) which is a digital
>transmission and requires a more specialised setup.  APT, which is the
>analogue transmission, would be cheaper but the resolution may not be very
>high.  Someone who might know more about how to receive GMS imagery is a
>fellow by the name of Arthur Andrews  who writes a
>monthly column in the Australian Radio and Communications Magazine.  His
>articles are primarily about the polar orbiting satellites, but I'm sure
>he would still know about what is required for GMS...  I am still very
>interested in setting up something like this, Mark, so if you are
>interested, I'll see if I can find out approximately how much it would
>cost. 
> Cheers,
>  Paul G.

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